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of people who drank the kool aid last November who are having a hard time with it
"No one else was hurt."
Short and sweet. Those were the only two sentences I needed to read. I wish every story was like this.
Hip Hip Hooray
Kudos to the Macomb County Sheriff - Nicely done - POINT FOR YOU...
p.s. Can you say "no trial" ???
One more thing. Typing in all caps only makes you look like a screaming idiot.
WRONG. You have to establish the motive, the threat and the attacker's ability to carry out the attack. You will have to articulate why you believed that threat could cause Death, Great Bodily Harm Leading to Death, or Imminent Sexual Penetration.
The motive was he wanted to get away or cause as much damage as he could on the way out. How else can one take this? A man armed with a needle charging a man with a gun? A very reckless act!
A needle is a threat, and no one so far knows what substance that needle carried. It is reasonable to assume that a person could be caused Great Bodily Harm Leading to Death from that needle. This was not an "unarmed person".
The attacker ran towards the police officer with the needle, which established the ability to carry out the attack. An adult can easily move 21 feet in 1.5 seconds and the officer probably had even less time to react.
Jamin was the only one who "escalated the violence".
SOMEWHERE THAT DIDN'T KILL THE GUY, I THINK POLICE OFFICERS SHOULD GUN SOMEONE DOWN WHEN THE OTHER PERSON HAS A GUN ON THEM!
Again he threathen a police officer and he died that is what happens when you are on a suicide mission. The end.
However, I applaud the officers' quick thinking. When threatened, they are trained to shoot to kill. This man, however high on drugs and out of his normal mind he may have been, was threatening an officer. They may have very likely saved someone else from being injured.
It's unfortunate, but I'm sure the family had to see where his addiction was going. I know it's difficult to convince someone they need help if they don't want it. I know the family is hurting right now. The officer is probably traumatized by this as well. It's tough to make a decision like this and live with the fact that you've killed someone, regardless of the scenerio.
Denise, if this really is your son, (which I highly doubt) then your posts make many things clear. I would put money on him growing up in poverty with an alcoholic/pill popping single mother. You have the spelling, grammar, and English skills of a D average 6th grader, so I can assume you never held a job that required more than bending over and picking up things. Also, not to mention that only a few hours after his death you are on a news site arguing with people who are fed up with criminals (violent or not). Calling people fools while misspelling every other word and telling Rory he has no intelagins just shows your ignorance.
I really doubt though that you are his mother because if you are, you need help and you will not get it arguing with people here, they will tear you apart.
And if you are not the mother, than you are a sick attention craving sicko and you need help.
The bartender says "Ur money is good but, ur alligator is scaring the hell out of everyone!"
The guy says watch this...tells the gator to open and it opens its mouth...he puts his pee pee in the mouth and begins to hit the gator on the head with a stick.
The guy says, "How about that for control?"
Bartender says, "Good but, look at my customers, they are still scared as hell."
Guy says, "Wait I'll show you." He asks if any of the customers wants to try this and a small guy stands up and says, "I will, I will, just don't hit me so hard with the stick!"
Better hummor than..........?
And you know cuemaster how?
A normal adult person can move 21 feet easily in 1.5 seconds and attack. Glad to hear that this officer's training paid off.
I am sorry for the family's loss, however, to blame the police officer is wrong. He did what he had to do to protect himself and others in the ER.
Doctors and nurses were not actually trying to revive your POS as earlier reported. They were actually digging in for the good vittles to feed to their dogs before it spoiled. They had to toss the heart because it had a big hole in it.
Perhaps, it wasn't the officer being "wimpy" or a "pig" or any other of your choice terms? Maybe, just maybe, it was the safety of those IN and around the ER that the officer was thinking of? Obviously it's difficult for you to comprehend, but not all people are as selfish as your family member was to only think of themselves.
Do you have a "right" to be angry? Of course, but direct your anger at the person that deserves it. Your family member. He is the one that brought his death upon himself. Had he not committed his original crime he would not have been arrested in the first place. Had he taken better care of himself, perhaps he would not have needed medical attention. HAD HE NOT GRABBED THE NEEDLE, HE WOULD NOT BE DEAD.
Instead of trying to defend your family member to those of us whose opinion you are not going to sway, why not put your emotion and dedication to working w/ those that are involved with drugs, to get their lives straight so someone else doesn't end up in the same predicament as your family member?
We're talking about human beings, not just a "criminal" and an "officer".
Among the most shocking aspects of the comments, thus far, is that as of 8:30 p.m. on 11/08/09, there are 487 of them, about a Caucasian criminal in a suburb, on this web site.
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Warren Police Commissioner William Dwyer said they received a call about a disturbance at a car wash business at Groesbeck Highway and Eight Mile Road around 12:30 p.m.
When officers arrived, the person creating the disturbance was gone.
Watch: Warren Officer Stabbed
Several witnesses pointed to the home across the street from the car wash and said the 20-year-old suspect was in there. The house was located on the street on the 20000 block of Waltham Street.
When officers went to the home, the suspect went into the house, grabbed a butcher knife and stabbed one of the officers several times, police said.
"The officer was cut up on the skull area, cut on the left side of the cheek," said Dwyer.
Witness Ron Carnwath said the slashed officer stumbled out of the home and went back to his car and radioed, "Officer down, officer down!"
An excavation crew nearby saw the injured officer and ran over to assist him.
"He ran to his truck to grab some rags and as I'm kind of walking up to him, he says, 'Anything! grab a jacket.' So I took my jacket and held it to his head," said Carnwath.
The suspect was taken into custody by another officer.
The injured officer was transported to Bi-County Hospital.
There is no word on the officer's condition.
The suspect's name is not being released, but police said they are working on an attempted murder warrant.
wow that officer didnt shot to kill now did he and he was stabbed .
translated:
"The deputy has been assigned to a desk until his new supply of ammo arrives"
funny how some people can chose this while others with a real disease has to fight.
it sounds like you're doing everything right for your granddaughter. hopefully she will get her sh!t together and see that creep for what he is. maybe one day he'll get clean!
Would you have felt better if he had hurt someone first???
Either or QUIT LYING it makes you look like a bigger fool than you are!!!
IS THAT SYMPATHEDIC ENOUGH! HE WAS A SCUM BAG LOSER WHO TURNED TO CRIME FOR HIS DRUGS!!!!!!! LLOOOSSSSEEEERRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOD RIDDENS AND FAIR WELL! HOPE HE HAD FUNERAL MONEY!
BY THE WAY, GO DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER YOU'LL SEE HE'S YOUR SON IN YOUR POST!
"Guess what fool ,It was a small neddle and he was my "SON" No mater what he could of been shot in the leg or tassed no reason on this earth to shot to kill and everyone will get the facts not the only sourse from Macomb Count Sheriff Dept You can take that the bank"
your son,your brother....
I smell a troll....
I've edited this after reading more. There doesn't seem to be much sympathy for you. Gee, I wonder why . . . . .
You won't win, save your food stamp money!!
And Drug/Alcohol Addiction is NOT a disease! Only addicted people use that BS excuse to blame something other than themselves. I never cracked a beer because I had a disease. I did it simply because I wanted a beer, and I CHOSE to have one.
No Police Officer ever wants to take another persons life, but it happens. Yes, the deputy has to live with this incident taking place, but I'm sure he/she will be able to sleep at night.
It DOES MATTER what type of person he was and we all here have the FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND EXPRESSION. I like it when my fellow Americans exercise their RIGHTS.
He chose to end his life, a very self-centered act. How else can one describe a person armed with a needle attacking a police officer armed with a gun? People involved with drugs are usually very self-centered people, who care very little about those around them.
Celebrate and support the diversity of thought and freedom of speech
Your dumb
So, if the mentally ill drug addict is running around the ER while I'm there, I'm certainly hoping there is an officer there to blow him away! In my opinion, the interview they showed with sister on the evening news last night explained in detail every reason the cops had for shooting him!
I have an idea that his family is going through the grieving process, and I can respect that. However, they are certainly not wanting to put the responsibility for this on the right person's shoulders! Again, putting it on Jamin's shoulders won't provide any $$$$ am I right, or am I right?
People make me sick!
Or to prepare our hearts for good-bye.
If all you insincere people were grieving as we are you would
be singing a different tune. Jamin was a beautiful soul who will
be missed and our hearts will be forever sad for this loss.
Don't tell me you are all perfect...everyone has troubles in their lives.
He was trying to overcome his, he would never hurt anyone in a right
frame of mind but that wasn't even considered. How would that officer feel
if it were his son, nephew, grandson etc. I think he just pulled the trigger
before thinking. Also why are the tapes being kept from the family, what are
they hiding? My heart goes out to his mother and sister and little girl and all
other family members. Even if I wasn't grieving for my beloved nephew my
views are always the same on these type of issues. It is an very unfair world
we live in. May Jamin Rest In Piece and may Lisa be there to help him along the way.
You posted earlier and said he was your cousin. So which is it - cousin or nephew? Or is it both?
If only we could line up ALL violent criminals and put bullets in them too. Crime would drop drastically. The problem is all the bleeding heart liberal cry babies who defend the bad guys. Violent criminals should have no rights. Can you imagine all the ambulance chasing lawyers who'd be out of work if bad guys had no rights? some food for thought
Aint, Aint isn't doing anything wrong and he means no disrespect he is trying to lighten a bad situation and he if you don't like what he writes than don't read them. Since you brought it up what did your post have to do with the story at hand?????
People would be outraged if their local news, Fox news, CNN, or any other television news stations were employed with people like Will Ferrell or Jim Carey 24 hours a day and seven days a week. Heck, even Will Ferrell and Jim Carey know that it would be inappropriate for news journalists to act like their comic personas during a news broadcast. For example, Joy Behar does not do her stand-up comedy routine on her new , but that zing isCNN commentary show. Ms. Behar may say a small zing with in her commentary topic, but a one line zing is not the same as a comedy routine. Even though I do not care for Joy Behar's views, I do respect the fact that she knows the difference between a small zing regarding a topic and a full comedy routine.
You asked what did my original comment have to do with the story...my comment was showing respect to the AP owners, editors, authors, and to readers (like you & I). If you do not think you, as a news reader, are worth respecting, then consider yourself viewed like the jokester. However, I originally thought, you - as a news reader, like many of us, are worthy of intelligent discussions. Would you have thought it was appropriate for the jokes to be commented in a recent Fort Hood, TX news article? (I would hope that you are compassionate and intelligent to know that the answer is "No.") Then ask yourself what is the difference, since a person(s) lost their life in both news stories! The root of both stories is that someone died, and that is something not to be joked about!
Dont slam me just beacuse i say how i feel too like the others i understand that alot of people dont like cops, Fine w me.. im just saying the guy was a drug addict!
"im just saying the guy was a drug addict!" - This drug addict was still a human being with family.
they dont put thier families in consideration..
Hair stylist says, "Why not?"
Blonde, "If I take these off I'll surely die!"
H/S says, "Lady I been cutting hair for 15 years and I can tell you that, no one has ever died by taking off headphones."
Blonde, "Oh no, my doctor said, Not to take off these headphones or I'll surely DIE!"
H/S says, "I promise YOU WON'T die!"
Blonde takes off the headphones and the H/S starts cutting and ALL OF A SUDDEN the blonde dies.....H/S freaks and picks up the phones to see what was on it and she hears.....Breathe in, breathe out, breathe in breathe out!!
Hows that for a suprize death!!
Shine a flashlight into her ear.
LMAO
Actually, I think I should ask Jesus, as Jeebus is only in charge of scratch offs and the three digit.
Don't want to pray for winning lotto numbers and get taco's or matzah ball
soup instead!
I'm calling shenanigans on this too. White people don't use the word "fool" the way you do, you spell at a first grade level, (overdid it with "rapiest") and I doubt that a grieving momma would be arguing with strangers on this site at 4 a.m.
I must say though, Nice work Blowj. I think this is as funny as the dead willow deal.
On second thought, don't call. Go for it.
Before you embarrass yourself with more contradictory musings, log off and go f@ck yourself.
We will definitely be in contact.
The police officer's training was fine. He did exactly what he was supposed to do. You're right...just because Jamin was a drug addict he didn't need to be killed, however, because he WAS attacking a police officer with a deadly weapon, he did deserve to be shot and killed. Do not blame the police officer for not cuffing him to the gurney. Blame Jamin for having put himself in the position of being there in the first place by committing crimes.
For the record, most of us that are frustrated with, and outraged by, the amount of crimes being committed ARE the ones that help our communities, volunteer at our churches, have dealt with mentally ill family members, etc. We do make a difference, however, I would really, really like you to tell me how Jamin and his family have made differences in our community.
It's all so unfair.
He had every right to protect himself from that junkie.
now poor jamin got shot real fast
All the kings horsemen tried telling his friends
but they are just like him and lack common sense
Thank you....Thank you.... we go on again at 7:30
As far as the golden rule, perhaps that's a lesson that Jamin would have done well to learn.
me they are not deserving of any compassion.
They cry they don't have enough money to bury him but they have enough
to hire a lawyer and start an investigation
1. Don't Care About The Facts.
2. Only Care About The Feelings.
Just another Bleeding Heart Liberal. Freedom of Expression is only a crime in your PC-Created World, not the REAL World.
We have plenty of compassion for victims. There can be no mercy for criminals.
Some personal attacks are all the comeback you can muster as a response? They were weak - your internet kung-fu is not strong. I need not attack you - you reveal your usefulness all to well.
BTW - Aren't you the one who posted that "People are so quick to judge"?
Pot meet kettle.
As far as compassion, I'll save my compassion for the victims of crimes and not the criminals.
Many, MANY of us have lived through personal tragedies. The difference is that it was not brought on by the stupidity and criminal actions of one of our loved ones but, rather, through no fault of their own.
The bartender says "Ur money is good but, ur alligator is scaring the hell out of everyone!"
The guy says watch this...tells the gator to open and it opens its mouth...he puts his pee pee in the mouth and begins to hit the gator on the head with a stick.
The guy says, "How about that for control?"
Bartender says, "Good but, look at my customers, they are still scared as hell."
Guy says, "Wait I'll show you." He asks if any of the customers would like to try this and a small guy stands up and says, "I will, I will, just don't hit me so hard with the stick!"
Mr. Totty may have committed actions that brought his life to an end, but he is still a human being, and his family mourns their loss. You wouldn't know that from the tone of most the comments.
"The Totty" ?? Oh great... another @$$hole referring to himself in the 3rd person. That's reason enough to employ deadly force. Point to the cops.
Speaking of 3rd person references... where has Saphonda Syphillis Peters been?
If we're evil or divine
we're the last in line.
That cop was simply too afraid or too lazy to do his job.
I'm fed up with the family and friends of this criminal blaming the police officer. Had Jamin never come at him with a needle, none of this would be an issue.
What is "wimpy" is a person that steals. Others that are "wimpy" are people that make excuses for them stealing. The police officers that protect us all (even you) on a daily basis are not the wimpy ones.
As far as seeing the video, perhaps it is routine for the videos not to be released until a certain point into the investigation. When I saw that the family had already hired an attorney less than 24 hours after Jamin was killed, I could practically see the money signs dancing in their eyes.
The sister commented that he's been using drugs and hasn't been himself over the past year. She claims he was never violent but apparently she's never seen anybody in a drug rage and how utterly violent they can become.
His sister also states in the article that they don't know what they're going to do because they have no money to bury him which, again, makes hiring an attorney so quickly very questionable.
Or was it on "The faces of meth"............
I dunno. I can't remember. You psycho meth-heads all look the same
My only wish is that they would have pi$$ed on his corpse after shooting the LOSER.
"Grabbed a needle and threatened."
Could you live with a life sentence that someone has inflicted on you Hepatitis, Aids, or any type of body diminishing disease and only because the other person had intent? Right frame of mind or not I know what survival is and its not giving the opportunity for death......
I am saying..............
I wonder if all of his friends and family put as much effort into trying to help him turn his life around as they have trying to defend his criminal actions on this blog.